Track Day CMP *** Sat/Sun, June 5-6 *** P.R.E.

JustAnotherSquid

JustAnotherSquid

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Where: Carolina Motorsports Park
When: Saturday and Sunday, June 5-6, 2021
Cost: $180 (less any membership discounts you may have)
Link: https://www.ridepre.com/events/

CMP is still my favorite track, and the fact that it is also the closest and cheapest is icing on the cake.

KK and I have rented a garage and have room for one or two more bikes. Anyone else want to go? We cancelled (see below).
 
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We cancelled both days as I don't think the Gixxer will be repaired in time. If we get lucky and do get it ready, we'll re-book for Sunday (assuming spots are still available).

For anyone else going - be safe, have fun, and go fast! :)
 
I’m at cmp trying out my new bike. Or old bike with changes.

i’m here both days. So far 1:50s out of tfe box

1:48s easy in traffic. I still haven’t even pushed the bike.
All future bikes shock and rear sets are the first up grade. Whatever it takes to move the clip ons is next.
3 bikes I’ve had and tried to get the shock to work for me. 3 bikes I put an Ohlins on from FBI and it is a new bike.
 
Sounds like all of the upgrades are working out! That's awesome. Is the tank cover an improvement? How's the weather been?

I too resisted upgrading suspensions for years, until I was forced to put an Ohlins on the rear of the R1100S back in 2002 due to a blown factory shock. It took about three miles on the Ohlins to realize EVERYTHING needs aftermarket suspension. :D
 
I ended with some low 1:47s then went the other way near the end of day. I'm here tomorrow as well. Bike feels amazing, but I'm parking it tomorrow. I'm going to ensure my ZX10 runs correctly before placing it up for sale. I have the right side CMP front and rear wear going on. I don't feel like pulling the tires and flipping. I do think toward the end of the day this flat spot or right side wear is what I was feeling trying to get the bike to turn in the carousel and 12. Not as bad as before and new towards the end of the day. Overall, it was productive day because I can see where I need to improve and early on the bike was on rails, everywhere but the carousel and 12. Much much better here and I think my early turn ins contributed a lot more here than the bike.
 
Not bad for getting used to a new bike. Keep the updates coming - some of us are needing to live vicariously at the moment. :D

On a different but related note, I spent all day yesterday working on the Gixxer and it is coming along nicely (knock on wood). It's a tank and a trooper, and it deserves better than to be ridden by the likes of me.
 
Hi guys!

Tires: If you get a flat spot where you're cornering (front and back!), know that as it gets thinner, it will hold less heat. It will also create a high spot on each end making the handling feel like you just installed new Metzlers (like that one???). Seriously, itll fall into the turn after you get over the first high spot, then you'll have less traction due to the thin spot, then you'll try to get over the second high spot for more lean, and you'll have different ness traction as less of the tire is on the road surface. Used tires are a great teacher though... I run mine until they're gone, normally. It is quite remarkable how thin they get at end of life, with just the cord/structure and inner rubber left.

Helicopter: I heard that someone got a ride yesterday. Do you know the scoop?

Suspension: Even crap suspension set up properly is the bees' knees. I ran the stocker on the back of my 750 the whole time I had it. Never had any issues with it once I raised the rear...a lot. My Fox, Penske, and Ohlins all feel different, but get the job done and when I'm at speed (It has happened...once) I really don't even notice it. I suspect that is the point!

Is it track day yet? Monday weather looking good.
 
I can definitely feel a "flat spot" but never thought about the subtler implications. Interesting stuff.

Jeez, hope whoever it was that got medevac'd is going to be ok. Scary stuff. :(
 
Hmmmm, I intentionally didn't say anything about the helicopter ride out of respect for the family and my friendship. And..... it is probably one of the main reasons I did not ride today. But, since it is out there I'm ok talking about it now. It was a very close riding friend of mine who took that tumble and the helicopter ride. The injuries are substantial and typical of a 120-130mph crash, but unless there is some unforeseen further development not at all life threatening.

I don't want to go on written record on what happened, but will gladly talk about it in person. It was avoidable, several little things and decisions leading up to it. I won't say names, but it was the male of the married family that rides together and I am seen with often at trackdays.
 
I think your description of tires is what I was feeling, but as I was trying to get the bike back up to the center. I say that because I didn't notice it until the end of day.

Also, my vision needs some serious work and practice to look ahead.
 
Wow, doubly sorry to hear that and hope he gets well soon. If there is anything to be learned from his experience, maybe you can share some of what happened after he's fully healed.
 
Fyi, I didn't mention it, but I witnessed the crash. It happened right in front of me and it is amazing how life can slow down in an instant.
 
Also, written word is hard to translate or convey emotion. I'm not at all bothered about it getting mentioned here. I didn't want to be that guy talking about an accident on a public forum before the family has even said anything, but now that it has been mentioned I will.

I did witness some things yesterday by people that gave me a big wtf, as in taking pictures of boots, suit, bike, and damaged stuff. Eventually, I closed the trailer and hid everything from site.
 
Soo sorry to hear about the accident! I remember talking to the Mrs. at CMP a few weeks ago, very nice lady and I pray that they have the strength to get through this and that he has a full recovery. Please tell them we're praying for them.
 
Just some general things I have seen this year all were a factor in this incident
Don't follow directly behind a person in front of you
Don't overslow or park the bike extremely early for a turn. The straight is not a place outside of a normal brake zone to slow to corner speed.
Don't follow too close to the rider in front of you.
Don't ever look away from the track.
Don't panic brake

Take any of those away and the accident doesn't happen.
 
You're right on the mark, JW. Things change so fast at speed, and so much can happen, there's no reason, at a track day, to be in anyone's tire tracks. I say this at a lot of track days, but still see people do it. I believe it to be a part of target fixation that no one wants to address. I also pull people in when I see them looking backward to find out why, explain why it isn't allowed, and stop it early.

There's a lot of fun to be had at a track day, with old friends and new, and no reason that I can think of to put ourselves or others at unnecessary risk. We used to see an air flight almost never. Now they're happening all of the time. It is not acceptable and not necessary.
 
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The accident was an over the bars panic instant stoppie on the front straight which started about the novice brake zone. Everything stopped happening in T1. A lot of time on the ground tumbling and I could see it all happening from start to finish.
 
That sounds terrible. I'm keeping tabs on the rider through another mutual friend.
 
interesting thread. My life changed at CMP June 2010. Dont recall too many details, did learn some from other riders.
 
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